asked Aug 28 '17 at 13:05 by kresbeatz (121)

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Hello, I want to add the FR for Chase Midi Notes function. It's very convenient for working with long notes and loops.

Basically, it means that you can play the note not only from start, but from any position. So, imagine, that you have veeeery long note (drone, texture, etc) and now you can listen it only if it played from the start.. This completely ruins workflow and I think it's very easy to implement.

Thank you, Igor.

Midi Chase is is very useful to my workflow in FL Studio. I miss it a lot in Bitwig.

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answered Mar 13 at 02:48 by emCar (31)

A chase midi notes option is essential for composers. Please add.

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answered Mar 11 at 18:32 by Syngularity (21)

Yes, this is needed. Modulations of native devices could also be calculated for chosen time position, so evolving stuff could work accurate too.

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answered Mar 13 at 00:39 by xiso (56)

Unless you're talking about very monotonous sounds, I'm wondering.. since most sounds evolve over time (through envelopes, modulation, automation etc), what would you expect to hear when you start playing in the middle of some "veeeery long note", e.g. of a complex texture - its initial swelling or the "correct" sound at that playmarker in the timeline?

I mean, to get a reproduceable representation of the audio at a point in the timeline, wouldn't "Bounce in place" be the simpler/safer/more cpu-friendly option?

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answered Aug 28 '17 at 17:26 by bufobufo (136)

Bounce in place is not the option. I understand what you mean, but even with evolving sounds it will help a lot. And not all sounds evolving this much. So, I think it will be relatively easy to implement as a simple check box in the settings. I have a Cubase background and found this feature super useful.

  — (Aug 28 '17 at 21:08) kresbeatz

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@bufobufo : I don't understand what you don't understand in the subject exposed by kresbeatz. Justly, a hundred-measures-note can perfectly evolve over time with automation or CC messages, OSC, CV, etc... with appropriate settings on the synth (hard or soft) !

Reaper does it by default and, since I was born when Neil Armstrong walked on the Moon, I remember that Steinberg implemented this feature in Cubase in the end of the '80ies. I consider as a shame the fact that Bitwig doesn't 30 years later !

Best regards.

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answered Aug 21 at 18:56 by BM2600 (11)

I don't think you quite understood my remark. Which was, basically, that Bitwig offers ways to change device parameters over time in non-deterministic ways (unlike static automation, CCs and stuff; looking at free-running modulators, or the random ones), so that the only way to achieve consistent, reproducable audio output when starting playback in the middle of a note would be to actually pre-render that note behind the curtains. Which, again, is exactly what "bounce in place" is there for.

  — (Aug 21 at 21:07) bufobufo

I don't think it's a problem if result would sound different on each render. Then it's no different than hearing different movement each time starting from same spot. Things like ADSR and other time-related settings in modulators can be easily calculated and taken into account when playing note from the middle or elsewhere.

  — (Aug 21 at 23:52) xiso

Agreed, that might work for native devices whose internals Bitwig has full control over. How about VSTs though? To the host, they're widely blackboxes as they don't necessarily expose all their internal state. I'm not familiar with the VST 2/3 spec. Is it possible (from the host perspective) to tell a VST "please play this note now, but do it as if it had started five beats ago"? If not, we're back at the pre-rendering necessity.

  — (Aug 22 at 20:20) bufobufo

"Bouncing" ("rendedring") is a feature that propose Bitwig Studio. This one responds to certain purpose. The MIDI chase is another feature, for other purpose, that seems to me so basic that I never wondered about its implementation in BS before buying it. Honestly, if I knew this lack, I wouldn't have bought it ! Ihope the developpers staff will hear us (@kresbeats, @singularity, @xiso, @emCar... and I, and, I think, hundreds of "Bitwigers")

  — (Aug 25 at 19:28) BM2600

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