asked Feb 23 at 04:42 by aqaraza (31)

edited Feb 23 at 04:44

I am new to Bitwig, so bear with me.

I'm trying to use Evabeat's generative VST, Melody Sauce, in Bitwig, but having limited success.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1nm86LBnFM https://evabeat.com/

I can get instruments to play those notes as audio, either by placing it in the device chain prior to the instrument, or by routing notes to the instrument.

However, I can't seem to get a session to record the generated notes as midi on the piano roll. Oddly, if I mash the keys while Melody Sauce is playing through, those notes do get recorded on the roll.

Any ideas? Anyone else experimenting with this VST?

  • aqaraza

Hi @aqaraza,

I don't own Melody Sauce, but it seems to be a type of Arpeggiator. Arpeggiators work by receiving MIDI note messages (in Bitwig's case from a MIDI Keyboard or pre-recorded/written notes in the note event window) and generating new MIDI note patterns based on this input. The arpeggiator output is then routed to the instrument of your choice (not to the Instrument Track's midi input and therefore cannot be directly recorded to the event window in the way you are expecting). To record the output of the Melody Sauce Device you need to route it's output to the input of another instrument track. Add another Instrument Track and set it's Midi Input to receive the midi output of the Melody Sauce Device. You can do this by highlighting the new instrument track and then making changes in the drop down menu located above the channel fader in the inspector panel.

Please upvote if this is helpful.

Thanks

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answered Feb 23 at 09:59 by sticklebrick (359)

@sticklebrick -

Thanks - Your tips helped, and I did manage to get an output! I fiddled with the settings to do it, as it wasn't quite down-to-the-letter how you described, and I can't yet replicate it consistently. ^_^ Once I can, I'll summarize here.

It does look like it will be possible with any existing instrument, not just new instruments, which is great. But I can't yet git it to playthrough the notes while it records them; just after the fact. More (for posterity/future bitwiggers) as I figure out how to replicate the procedure.

Thanks,

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  — (Feb 24 at 06:00) aqaraza

@sticklebrick - Thanks - This did seem to work, at least in part! I'm going to document what I did so that the next person can replicate it, even if a newbie like me.

I first tried it with a new instrument track as you recommended, but later found the same connection worked with existing instrument tracks as well. But this step-by-step will just use a new instance of FM-4.

ADD plugin Melody Sauce

-- Melody Sauce UI should pop up as visible.

ADD instrument plugin FM-4 ( or any other instrument)

-- Test FM-4* for sound, if desired.

-- In the INSTRUMENT TRACK pane, change [Select input for recording and monitoring] from [All ins] to Tracks > Melody Sauce > Melody Sauce (top, track-colored icon; not as Device.)

-- Hit Melody Sauce's grid to generate a player to the Melody Bank. No lights will light up in the grid, yet.

-- Arm FM-4* to Record.

-- Hit PLAY to start REC

-- Notes will immediately begin to appear recorded to the MIDI piano roll of FM-4*

-- If you hit Melody Sauce's grid while recording, it should immediately create new players in the Melody Bank, and begin playing those to the piano roll being recorded.

-- Hit STOP

-- Hit PLAY to hear FM-4* play back the notes recorded from the piano roll as recorded.

-- Experiment from here. You can delete MIDI recordings, select different Melody Sauce settings or players in the Melody Bank, arm to REC and record those as well.

NOTES

-- As yet, I cannot hear/audition Melody Sauce output while it is recording to the piano roll, but only after recording is stopped. Reading Melody Sauce video comments, this may be part of how Melody Sauce currently functions. Will explore further, and invite anyone else to post here if they try and succeed at getting immediate output while recording is underway. This would be nice...

-- Several times, I ended up not getting notes out to the piano roll. It seemed to do with the order in which you arm to record vs generate in Melody Sauce. But, I've tested the above sequence of steps several times and had success.

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answered Feb 24 at 17:35 by aqaraza (31)

edited Feb 24 at 17:37

Cool, thanks for sharing.

  — (Feb 24 at 18:15) sticklebrick

After sharing my own findings, and sticklebrick's tips, a reply from Evabeat support, with a fix for playthrough of Melody Sauce to live audio! Meaning I can finally use this for my original purpose: a tool for dynamically auditioning instruments. Some of the riffs and hooks aren't bad either. ^_^ Though sequences are short. But, here it is. " "

We've tested with Bitwig and we can get Melody Sauce's output to route to another instrument so that you can hear/audition melodies whilst your project is running (meaning you don't need to record the output first and then play). Here's how we did it:

Once you've loaded Melody Sauce onto one MIDI track and a software instrument onto another, set Melody Sauce's output to "Note to Tracks" / "your software instrument". Then set your software instrument's input to "Tracks" / "Melody Sauce". And that seems to be it!

We are aware though of a slight timing/sync issue some people experience when looping playback in BitWig - the first note of a melody skips and plays a touch too early. This is resolved when not in loop mode.

I hope this helps and do let me know if this works for you:)

Best

Steve

EVAbeat

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answered Feb 26 at 02:22 by aqaraza (31)

Nice one for the update! +1 from me.

  — (Feb 26 at 21:17) sticklebrick

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